How far are we willing to take this????
This is what greeted me as I turned on my computer this
morning.....
Friends, Even though Barack
Obama says he is not a Muslim, according to Islamic law he is a Muslim. Once a
Muslim, always a Muslim, with no way out of that mess. Muslims who leave Islam
are under a death sentence. No Muslim is allowed to quit that faith
There are two
ways to become a Muslim. One is by having
Muslim a Muslim father. The other is by saying the "First
Pillar."
According to
Islamic law, Obama is a Muslim on both counts. That is how all Muslims
understand his religion regardless of any disclaimers he may state.
His father was a
Muslim as was his stepfather. He said the First Pillar in Arabic before a New
York Times reporter, March 6, 2007, Nicholas D. Kristof at the New York Times.
It was printed in that newspaper.
Both the First
Pillar and Muslim parentage makes one a lifetime Muslim according to Islamic
law. The First Pillar is an affirmation that there is no God but Allah and
Muhammad is his prophet. This pledge contradicts basic Christian belief, and is
irrevocable. See the torments Allah will effect on apostates and non-Muslims in
the last three paragraphs of this post.
(As a Christian, it
is difficult for me to see why any genuine Christian would ever recite an
allegiance to Allah and Muhammad, especially in Arabic. Non-Christians do not
understand this is a denial of Jesus and our Father
God.)
* * * * * * So, what does that mean to America if Obama is elected
President? It means one of two things. (1) Either he is a Muslim in secret and
therefore in "good standing" with Islam, or else (2) he is a Muslim apostate and
so hated in Islam that he is under constant death threats.
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As a Christian-American I was stopped in my tracks...
Can we seriously be have gotten so behind John McCain as our saviour and prophet of God (the person who speaks God's will to us) or as messenger of God, that we have come to the point that we imply that a person who is Muslim cannot be saved according to the doctrine of Christianity. I understand the serious nature of why many of us are a little concerned about policy issues and how God views these things, but seriously - "irrevocable" because Islamic Law says so. Does that not imply that Islamic law trumps what Jesus, Paul and others stated.
In
this one mail you have:
- Challenged The idea that any person who accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour is saved (even if that person doesn't properly understand God's desires (as of yet)
- You have implied that somehow Islamic Law has more authority than what is outlined in the Bible ("according to Islamic Law he is a Muslim." your exact words in opposition to his statement to the contrary)
- You have demonstrated that somehow a person who has a disagreement with another professing Christian's interpretation of scripture (correct or incorrect) has the right and authority to publicly question that person's salvation.
- You have called upon the fear of those in Islam to convince us that somehow Senator John McCain is the Godly choice for our nation effectively putting all of God's eggs in the McCain basket - what happens if he becomes president and is nowhere as Godly as we make him out to be (history shows that this could most likely be the case) the church again looks collectively crazy and sets the stage for loosing more political influence than ever before (winning the battle at the expense of losing the war)
- You have used a page and a half of scary statements to take the worst most evil doctrines of Islam, tie them to a person who proclaims himself to be Christian, and manipulate those easily influenced by such tactics to believe that God wants them to vote for John McCain as God's messenger for the next four years.
The point is not if John McCain is the
better choice or not with this email, the point is that using ungodly and
unbiblical tactics to support a candidate who although more like God would have
us all vote on two or three issues has clearly shown through campaign tactics
and some past actions is not God's representative is to take a role as a messenger of God that the Bible did not give to any of
us.
The reason I feel the need to discuss this
is that the main mission of the church is to make disciples and nothing more
hurts that cause in the United States than doing that which is crazy and saying
it is in the name of Christ.
There is life after this election and you
have just told some folks that a person who is a Muslim for any period cannot be
saved. Or that if a person has a Muslim father or having ever stated the "First
Pillar" it is impossible for that person to be saved. Or a person who has been
a Muslim and likes the sound of certain things of Islam is somehow inherently an
evil person. Your use of the word "Irrevocable" in and of itself undermines the
entire premise of Christ's sacrifice on the cross as a sacrifice for a desired
result in the 2008 United States presidential
election.
If it were a fact that making some
allegiance to something that is outside of God's will was "irrevocable" than
probably all of us who did not accept Christ at a very early age and confine
ourselves to only being around church people could not have been saved and have
been living a lie. Paul and the membership of most of the churches
he planted might be sad to hear
that!!!!!
Can we all please take a minute and calm
down. God is not the type that has to cheat to win. Many, in the name of
representing what they believe to be the more Godly choice in this election have
resorteed to extremely ungodly tactics and methods that have a much more
long term negative effect on the message of Christ and those seeking Him.
I wonder if Paul were running for
president, with his past as a Pharisee of Pharisees, and history of killing
Christians and associating with Christian killers, plus all of his policies that
seem to come from his Hebrew roots - would you vote for him or assume he
couldn't be saved no matter what he said or did. I know we are nowhere near
talking about Paul here, but this is way over the top and has little with
anything to do with this presidential race and more to do with passion for what
we believe to be God's will overriding God's will.
If we bring evil into a battle (even if
God sent us into that battle) we lose God's covering in that battle (as seen in
a place named Ai). If it were true that God's man is John
McCain - is it possible that all of this manipulation of truth and of believers
took God's hand out of the equation and that is why he is
losing.
As an Christian undecided voter who is an independent
(but tends to lean to the right) I am finding the absolute evil that I have seen
from the church over the past few weeks to be telling me that the one place God
is not is in the McCain camp.would God stir such ungodly actions and feelings.
Clearly not and i am leaning the other direction more and more with all of
this. Over that past day or so, I have begun to see other believers starting to
feel the same way. The only people moved to McCain's camp by all of this were
angry McCain supporters who already want this stuff to be true so badly that
they can eaily ignore the unbiblical nature of all of this. I am still praying,
researching, and pondering that one empty space on my absentee ballot where my
vote for president is going to go. The big question is will I cosign such
ungodly behavior and practice as I have seen from those in support of John
McCain by giving him my vote or not?
The funny part is that all of that stuff about no way
out of Islam is not even what Muslims believe - ironic isn't
it.